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Does San Diego State's Aztec Mascot Perpetuate Racism? Does San Diego State's Aztec Mascot Perpetuate Racism?

It’s endured student petitions, campus referendums and an NCAA ban on Native American mascots. Now the San Diego State University Aztec is coming under fire again.

In 2009, San Diego State University sanctioned the Sigma Alpha Epsilon chapter on campus for hosting a party with a cowboys and Indians theme.

Ozzie Monge, a lecturer in the school's American Indian Studies Department, says that's a problem for the university.

Does San Diego State’s Aztec Mascot Perpetuate Racism? Does San Diego State's Aztec Mascot Perpetuate Racism? GUEST:Megan Burks, KPBS education reporter

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It's endured student petitions, campus referendums and a ban on Native American mascots. Now San Diego state University's Aztec is coming under fire again. In 2009, San Diego state University sanctioned the Sigma of alpha epsilon chapter on campus for holding a Cowboys and Indians theme party. That was a problem for the University. The University punished students who were dressed like Indians while student -- the University maintains a mascot that looks like an Indian? He presented University administrators with an exhaustive look at the mascot history. He said it was born out of racism and should be canned. This is a relic from a time the country was so openly racist. He says the fascination with this started a long time ago. The missions also brought abuse to Native Americans. There is a schools to -- song that stems from those early days that it's about native -- naked heathens. After the school merged with a Junior college to become San Diego state University, there was a con test -- contest staged. The coach becomes a chief, the athletes are warriors, when they go on the road they are on the warpath, when they win, they massacre. In 1987 the graduating class gifted the University with an Aztec. It became known as Monty Montezuma. They were stomping around in circles in headdresses. I have in a 2014 video with people dancing around acting the Savage. He described the 1995 homecoming game. He chased women clad in buckskin around the campus. He grabbed Monty and so what you doing? They were playing Sage chickens. That is the birth of the mascot at San Diego state University. That is acknowledged even by the University's website. He said in a statement the University welcomes the conversation and that past discussions resulted in an Aztec mascot that is more historically accurate. The more stylized Monty costume was retired. He began wearing it in 1990, and consulted with a professional in Mexico. It has a feathered helmet.'s. It represents strength. You ask a lot of people I think they would say the same thing. He was right. That's what we found we talked to several students on campus. After they heard him speak, the results were different. She said she tries to show school spirit most days. I agree with everything he said, it is hurtful, it is an act of racism and hidden from the students. He doesn't want students like her to feel ashamed. It is up to us to teach this lesson of racism and we keep hiding it to protect the mascot. He is sharing his findings with student groups. He hopes to spark a dialogue on campus. KPBS reporter Megan Burks joins me now. How did the story come to your attention? That this exhaustive history of the mascot, when I spoke to him about it, I realized this was a little bit more than the calls we of her to the and the mascot -- tran 13 in the past. I hadn't heard them before and I went to San Diego state University. I thought it was interesting and thought other people would think so too. It wasn't just is the Aztec native American and be banned, let me sit you down let me tell you what happened and let's talk about it. I thought that was a new approach. For people who are not familiar with the Aztec mascot, how is it used? He is that all of the games. He is bear chested, he has this feathered helmet and a conch shell. In addition to games, there is initiation for freshmen every year where the freshmen walk through the hall and they are Aztecs and they learn the fight song. It is going back to some sort of ritual. There is space painting like there is at all kinds of sports events. He likes to point out where the colors are red and black, sometimes you have people in red and black face. Often it's just the stripes. Is used in all kind away on campus. The logo was used on clothing as well? The logo has changed over the years, it used to be a stylized head and now I believe it is a shield with an arrow through it. Got it. The mascot has been the subject of criticism before. Can you tell us more about that? It seems to come up every few years almost, most recently in 2014, the [NULL] people of color collective challenged it . It failed overwhelmingly. In 2005 there was the NCAA mascot ben -- ben. It was not included in that. Not included? No. They always draw the line at the Aztecs are not alive anymore. They feel that they can represent the culture in a proud way, it is okay, because there is not anybody alive to be offended. Because the Aztecs are extinct to speak? Yes. They did get rid of the Monty head and went to a more hysterically accurate portrayal. What did it look like before they changed it? The logo was this head that was poking -- bulky and large lips and high brow and read. Is the mascot seen nationally as offensive? Just like locally, there are varying opinions about it. There are all cons of lists that journalist put together, that activists put together, that mascots should be banned but are still alive and well. It is definitely a part of the conversation nationally. We hurting your report, it seems that having the name of Aztec is a positive cultural reference? Again, it is this prideful representation that Aztecs are being betrayed as a group with dollar, bravery and strength. In addition to that a lot of people with Mexican heritage feel very connected to the Aztec culture. Anthropologists might argue say that there are very few people alive today that have Aztec blood in their lineage, but the symbol of the Aztec is strong for life in the culture, so a lot of people feel really proud of that representation. The current mascot recently spoke about that in a video. Let's hear from him. I am Mexican myself so I am representing my culture when I am out there. I am not another mascot this is who I am. This is my blood this is where I came from. Where is this conversation going? He would like for the administration to start a dialogue about it. In lieu of that, he is sharing it with various student groups and wants them to have the conversation and it is be aware of more the context of how the mascot came to be. I've been speaking with KPBS reporter Megan Burks . Thank you very much. Thank you.

"Wait a minute. The university punished a fraternity for having a party where students were dressed like Indians, while the university maintains a mascot that is a student dressed like an Indian?" Monge said.

ADVANCED MASCOTOLOGY

RIVALS: The Aztecs get diplomatic with 49ers, Cougars, Toreros, and Runnin’ Rebels in the arena. Outside they’re rivaled only by smallpox, monotheism and objective accounts of history.

  • Aztec Warrior:
  • Originality: (2) While plenty of schools chose warrior mascots of long-toppled, European empires, nobody stayed in North America. Bonus points for thinking better of copying the local high school’s colors, too.
  • Presentation: (1) Eh, it looks like AW stole props off the set of the Mad Max series . Bring back the flaming spear, even if they did rip it off the Seminoles .
  • Authenticity: (0) I don’t care what the pro- Aztlán crowd says, no scholar puts the traditional home of the Aztecs in SoCal. There were, however, the Kumeyaay : fearsome farmers…beastly basket weavers.
  • Intimidation Factor: (2) Warfare was a religious devotion for the Aztecs, so much so that a captured warrior considered it an honor to be sacrificed by his captors.
  • Political Incorrectness: (2) AW pisses off MEChA every time he hits the sidelines…priceless.
  • TOTAL: (7) Overall, the Aztec Warrior demonstrates the best of compromise over capitulation.
  • Zuma the Puma: (will never be more famous than Gwen and Gavin’s Zuma, btw)
  • Originality: (0) SDSU miiiiiiight have gotten a point or two had they even tried to play the Jaguar Warrior card…but they didn’t.
  • Presentation: (.5) Well, it DOES appear to be a well made costume that DOES resemble a baby panther…whatever. It still looks like something plucked right off the shelves at Toys ‘Я Us.
  • Authenticity: (2) Puma’s still roam SoCal, and not just in the San Diego Zoo.
  • Intimidation Factor: (0) Zuma’s not scarin’ anybody.
  • Political Incorrectness: (0) Zuma is the out for future administrations that can’t stand up to Aztec Warrior’s detractors.
  • TOTAL: (2.5) Don’t be surprised if you look up one day, SDSU fans, and all you see cheering along side you is a Disney knockoff.
  • GRAND TOTAL: (4.75) Life-size plush toys always hurt the average.

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FSU borrowed the Flaming Spear from SDSU after the Aztecs crushed the Seminoles, to wit from Aztec Sports Report: “In addition to writing Gilbert a note, something else Bowden did upon returning to Tallahasse was borrow from SDSU tradition and an electric atmosphere he witnessed that night with 50,543 fans filling what was then named San Diego Stadium. The next year Florida State created a pregame tradition with Chief Osceola, a Seminole Indian, riding Renegade, an an appaloosa horse, and planting a spear in the turf to the roaring approval of Doak Campbell Stadium’s fans. “We got that idea from San Diego State,” Bowden said. “I remember we came out of our dressing room and saw (the Aztec Warrior mascot) in a sarong with a flaming spear. It was very inspirational.” “My wife (Ann) was with us on the trip, and we decided we needed to do something like that. That’s where we got the idea to get the crowd riled up. Oh, gosh, that’s one of the best pre-games in college football.”

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Gary Rather said, on July 22, 2011 at 17:09

Excellent. Well done and pretty much right on the money. One correction though. Florida State ripped off the flaming spear from San Diego State. I have heard Bobby Bowden say it in interviews. Florida State came out to San Diego to play the Aztecs in 1977. Florida State was #13 and the Aztecs were around #20. Both teams were 9-1. After “Monty Montezuma” came out of the tunnel with his flaming spear and scared the hell out of the Florida State players, the Aztecs went on to crush the Seminoles (approx) 47-17.

San Diego State Keeping Aztec Name, But Will Make Changes To Mascot

San Diego, CA (KGTV) -- The Aztec name and warrior mascot will remain a part of San Diego State University, according to the university's president.

SDSU President Sally Roush announced Thursday that after considering a university task force's recommendation on the issue, "the use of the Aztec moniker will continue" and the Aztec warrior would be retained.

Roush said, "'Aztec' will continue to be the name we associate with our university. We will, however, make changes to honor the Aztec culture, relying on our considerable capacity to create and deliver appropriate programmatic and educational material. Most importantly, we will focus on and correct the longstanding 'lack of engagement with other indigenous groups locally and with the history of the Aztec Empire.'"

She added, "The Aztec Warrior, similarly a source of pride for the collective majority, will be retained, but as Spirit Leader, not mascot. There will be immediate and visible changes in demeanor to achieve a respectful portrayal of a powerful figure from Aztec culture. We will undertake an effort to assess whether to add other meaningful symbols, marks or representations, including historically accurate animal symbols that capture the intellectual sophistication, power and bravery of the Aztec civilization."

Roush also said the use of the nicknames "Monty" and "Zuma" will be eliminated.

As part of her decision, Roush called for:

-- Education -- Governing body to ensure ethical, moral and fiduciary responsibility of carrying the Aztec name -- Meaningful engagement with Native American and indigenous communities of the U.S. and Mexico -- Appropriate signage and symbolic representation of the Aztec Empire and contemporary Nahua people across the campus -- Respectful and correct use of the Nahuatl language, especially in the invocation of such in awards and other forms of recognition -- Stricter guidelines for mascot – now Spirit Leader – representation, monitoring and enforcement of said guidelines Roush said, "I have spoken to incoming President [Adela] de la Torre, who is aware of the decision-making process that was followed and has read the task force report and its appendices. She asked me to convey that she respects the process. She accepts the decisions I have made. She is committed to ensuring the Aztec name and representations are treated with the care and the respect they deserve." The 17-member task force was formed earlier this year, and it included students, school staff members, alumni and community members.

The task force gave 200,000 constituents a survey on the issue; nearly 13,000 people responded to the survey. Roush said more than 6,000 people provided their viewpoint on the issue, with a majority in favor of keeping the Aztec name and warrior mascot.

In November 2017, the school's senate voted in favor of a resolution to retire the mascot and references to spears. The action spurred the formation of the task force in January.

Several months before, however, the school's Associated Student Council rejected a resolution that would have phased out the Aztec mascot.

Students at the university have criticized the mascot in the past because some find it offensive and call it cultural appropriation.

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