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And now while we wait for delivery, here�s a description of the Deluxe amplifier from the 1957-58 Fender Catalog:
You can dime the amp s volume control and pull back the guitar s volume control until it is clean without losing much treble it seems to love to be handled that way. As it turns out, this particular Deluxe amp was the sixth edition of the Fender Deluxe, the 5E3 circuit or Narrow Panel Deluxe produced from 1955-60.
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Neil Young's "Magic" 5E3
Apparently he owns a very special '59 5E3 and has bought a number of others, but none have been as good as this one. Anyone know anymore lore about this? What recordings he used it on?
I did happen to stumble upon some info regarding another amp from that time which was a beefed up clone of the late Tweed Deluxe, the DeArmond 1x12. I did some research on this and it looks to be a 5e3 circuit with bigger power and output transformers. That seems to make sense.
That brought up the question of what the heck is on Neil's "special" 5E3. does it have a different OT? The DeArmond looks very much bigger than a 5e3 OT so I'd think that would be easy to notice, but perhaps Fender hit on a secret recipe for their own OTs in '59?
I haven't thought much about building any Volume-Tone late tweeds anymore, but this has kind of given me the bug again. Perhaps I just go all out and just put a real high quality 25-30W core on there and see how it goes. Or try it with a RS clone? As far as the PT maybe try a underwound BF Deluxe and see if that helps. The PSU and PT are so undersized for that amp it's hard to say anything wouldn't be an improvement.
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Since this is a subject of only vague interest (to me I mean) I'm not going to dig real deep looking for any realities on the matter, BUT. Neil Youngs gear tech was (is?) Larry Cragg. He's done A LOT of interviews regarding Neil's guitar and amp. Like so many strings of interviews and reports there seems to be some things inferred and/or forgotten so much of what's said about Neil's Deluxe seems to be speculation. Let's just say the amp is not stock. And yes, there are some inferences to a special output transformer. I think I read something about that on the Mercury Magnetics site once. That should interest you. Anyway. Look up Larry Cragg and read the interviews. Since this is the guy who actually kept the amp working this would be the ONLY trustworthy source of information. Everything else is just something someone said or said Larry said or tried that worked for them, etc. And none of that is reliable or based in fact.
And. I would not arbitrarily change to a BF Deluxe PT. The voltage will be to high for the hotter bias of the 5E3 and either spoil the tone or even damage the tubes or OT. The whole circuit would require modification to operate at higher voltages. I think I once read that Larry changed the famous Deluxe (Neil has many) to 6L6 tubes. Whether this had anything to do with different transformers or higher voltages I can't say.
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