Searching for the Magic: Can the Coin be Found?

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Magic has been an aspect of human culture for centuries. From ancient civilizations to modern times, people have been fascinated by the idea of supernatural powers and the ability to manipulate the world around them. In many cultures, magic was seen as an essential part of daily life, used for healing, divination, and protection. However, with the rise of scientific rationality and the spread of Christianity, magic began to be seen as dark and dangerous. In the Middle Ages, thousands of people were accused of practicing witchcraft and were burned at the stake. This persecution led to the suppression of magical practices and the belief that magic was evil.


I belive T. Nelson Downs (King of Koins) is widely considered one of if not the best coin magician of all time.

Over time scholars began to take the collection seriously and a full version of all the scrolls appeared in the twentieth century along with an English translation. Doesn t matter if you re using a bottle or a can, if the method is practical and works well the audience isn t going to matter if you have a closed fist.

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This persecution led to the suppression of magical practices and the belief that magic was evil. Despite this, magic continued to flourish in secret, with practitioners passing down their knowledge through secretive societies and occult traditions. In the 19th century, groups like the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn and the Theosophical Society sought to revive magical practices and explore the mystical side of reality.

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I’m surprised there isn’t a thread on this yet considering it came out 3 months ago.

Looks Empty. Sounds Empty. Feels Empty. But whenever you like, you can cause the coin to penetrate the solid can.

Coin in can effects are great - but if they’re visual, where you throw the coin inside, then they’re usually not inspectable.
If the can is borrowed, your spectator usually can’t hold the can the entire time. The magician needs to.

If they rely on electronics, they can be temperamental - and won’t work 100% of the time.

So James Keatley set out to find my own solution - and came up with this… A practical coin in can effect that the spectator can hold, shake or look inside before the effect starts. It looks empty. It sounds empty. They’d swear to a judge it’s empty.

But with this gimmick and with minimal sleight of hand - and with them covering the opening - at any time, you can cause that coin to penetrate inside the can.

From that moment - with the can inside their hand - they can inspect everything… They can fish the coin out. Examine it. They can rub any part of the can.

And no, you don’t have to wear a PK ring or a band-aid on your finger.
This gimmick can be applied to any can, so you don't need to buy refills from us. You can make it at home using items you may already have.

We know there are a million coin in can effects on the market. We're not arrogant enough to say this is the very best. But what we will tell you is that this always works. Flawlessly.
It’s fun - and you can make the gimmick at home (so you won’t need to pay shipping charges).

Oh! And we almost forgot to mention, it fully resets in 3 seconds.

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Posted: Mar 26, 2022 07:12 am

It got high markings on the most recent episode of the Wizard Magic Review: https://youtu.be/A_IqLODI6eI

Posted: Mar 26, 2022 11:49 am

I got this when it came out. It's actually really good - seems completely impossible and gets great reactions. While yes, you have to have gimmicked the can beforehand, I think this is a small trade-off. The coin could be signed (= switch at some point), but even if not signed, the coin can apparently be borrowed, which I think is good enough. I think this can live comfortably alongside ungimmicked versions like Sinful, as they both achieve quite different effects - this is more of a quick one-off, and less of a grand theatrical piece. I can recommend this, especially at the price. Gimmick is a tiny bit finicky to make, but all in all not too difficult

Posted: Mar 26, 2022 08:29 pm

Thanks for the review, Derotanim!

How long is the setup/preparation time? Can you reuse the gimmick at all or do you have to remake it for each performance?

Posted: Mar 27, 2022 11:37 am

This is a solid product. Very easy to do. I must admit I haven't actually performed it in the real world yet but I will be doing so. Prep time is realistically 5 or 6 minutes. For the prep it does require equipment you probably already own, but you might not. Either way, the prep ingredients are very easy to obtain from just about any hardware shop. Personally I will put an evening aside and pre-make a dozen (maybe more) so I have them ready to take with me to places I forsee performing at.

In summary, while there is a fair amount of prep, I think it'll be 100% worth it. I made one and it wasn't difficult and worked perfectly for my rehearsal. There is very little risk of them finding the secret even if you were to leave them with the can after your performance. Great value for $15 in my opinion.

Posted: Mar 28, 2022 06:25 pm

Dreadful. Nothing against David, as it’s obviously a limitation of the effect but having a closed fist as you strike the can just ruins it imo. There’s so much better out there. Do not waste your money on this 💩

Posted: Mar 28, 2022 07:21 pm Quote:

On Mar 28, 2022, pegasus wrote:
Dreadful. Nothing against David, as it’s obviously a limitation of the effect but having a closed fist as you strike the can just ruins it imo. There’s so much better out there. Do not waste your money on this 💩

Have you ever watched Nick Lewin's Coin in Bottle routine? As The spectator is holding the glass bottle, Nick slams The Bottle while he's holding the coin with a closed fist. This is one of Nick's signature pieces that he has performed for over 30 years very successfully and has made a lot of money doing so. Nick has even performed this on TV while slamming the bottle with a closed fist.

If the method is good and practical with this it won't matter if you're fist is closed when you slam the coin in the can.

Check out Bafflingbob.com Posted: Mar 28, 2022 07:28 pm

But I do see your point pegasus, obviously it would look much better if the coin was in the hand that was slamming it into the bottle. But definitely not necessary.
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Check out Bafflingbob.com Posted: Mar 28, 2022 07:29 pm

Closed fist and no visual cues as to the coin penetrating the can just makes this a very ‘meh, is that it’ type of experience. No self respecting magician would ever consider performing this.

Posted: Mar 28, 2022 07:52 pm

I see, Nick Lewin is not self-respected.

Oh, quit being silly Pegasus.

Check out Bafflingbob.com Posted: Mar 28, 2022 08:20 pm Quote:

On Mar 28, 2022, RNK wrote:
I see, Nick Lewin is not self-respected.

Oh, quit being silly Pegasus.

Bottle. Not can. Visual cue. Understand what I’m trying to convey Bob.

Posted: Mar 28, 2022 08:56 pm

Doesn't matter if you're using a bottle or a can, if the method is practical and works well the audience isn't going to matter if you have a closed fist.

As long as at the last second you open that hand up, that's all that matters.

Check out Bafflingbob.com Posted: Mar 29, 2022 11:35 am Quote:

On Mar 28, 2022, RNK wrote:
Doesn't matter if you're using a bottle or a can, if the method is practical and works well the audience isn't going to matter if you have a closed fist.

Precisely. It's a great trick. I performed it last night and it went down a storm!

"But his fist was closed", said no spectator ever.

Posted: Mar 30, 2022 03:07 pm Quote:

On Mar 28, 2022, pegasus wrote:
Dreadful. Nothing against David, as it’s obviously a limitation of the effect but having a closed fist as you strike the can just ruins it imo. There’s so much better out there. Do not waste your money on this 💩

What is your objection, Pegasus? He clearly takes it in his fist with a French Drop (or similar), the same way many of us perform Coin in Bottle. Then he strikes the base of the can with his palm. I daresay you could sleeve it, or thumb-palm it, or ditch it in a Topit, or do a fake take - anything. I don't see why this is such a problem. Looks great to me. Five mins of prep is a pain, though.

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www.rosswelford.com Posted: Mar 30, 2022 04:56 pm

People are much more aware of germs and other related issues these days, and I believe that demonstrating this type of effect, with allegedly "random" cans being used, will make most people uneasy. Sadly, no "coin in can" type effects can really be considered "practical" anymore.

Never criticize someone else until you have walked a mile in their shoes. Then, when you do criticize them, you will be a mile away from them and you will have their shoes.

Posted: Mar 30, 2022 09:07 pm Quote: On Mar 30, 2022, Ross W wrote:
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On Mar 28, 2022, pegasus wrote:
Dreadful. Nothing against David, as it’s obviously a limitation of the effect but having a closed fist as you strike the can just ruins it imo. There’s so much better out there. Do not waste your money on this 💩

What is your objection, Pegasus? He clearly takes it in his fist with a French Drop (or similar), the same way many of us perform Coin in Bottle. Then he strikes the base of the can with his palm. I daresay you could sleeve it, or thumb-palm it, or ditch it in a Topit, or do a fake take - anything. I don't see why this is such a problem. Looks great to me. Five mins of prep is a pain, though.

This is free if you are on MagicStream. The 3-5 minute prep is easy but does require an extra material purchase. I imagine most people will just reuse the same can rather than throw it away after a performance (can can't be given away).

I think the selling point of this is that they can confirm the can is 'empty' and cover the opening of the can. And you don't need to slam the coin in with a closed fist, here's Ryan performing the effect with the coin openly in the palm. As Ross mentioned, there are lots of options for that part.

Posted: Mar 30, 2022 10:10 pm I rather enjoy the IMPRACTICAL CTC by Peter Eggnick (rolling eyes!!) The ULTIMATE Routine Series: rebirth soon! Posted: Mar 31, 2022 08:27 am Quote: On Mar 30, 2022, Ross W wrote:
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On Mar 28, 2022, pegasus wrote:
Dreadful. Nothing against David, as it’s obviously a limitation of the effect but having a closed fist as you strike the can just ruins it imo. There’s so much better out there. Do not waste your money on this 💩

What is your objection, Pegasus? He clearly takes it in his fist with a French Drop (or similar), the same way many of us perform Coin in Bottle. Then he strikes the base of the can with his palm. I daresay you could sleeve it, or thumb-palm it, or ditch it in a Topit, or do a fake take - anything. I don't see why this is such a problem. Looks great to me. Five mins of prep is a pain, though.

I’ve explained twice but let me explain again. A closed fist using an opaque coke can just kills it imo. Compared to the use of a folded coin, hidden in a glass bottle by pk ring, and openly showing THE coin in hand which is transferred via the ‘cat trap’ sleight. I know which version I’ll continue to use. Oh, and no setup either. Just a little practice.

Posted: Mar 31, 2022 08:55 am

I still maintain it's a solid trick. If you don't like the prep, that's fair enough, but Healed and Sealed was the same. I don't mind prep if it pays off and so far it has with this (I've performed it a few more times now). I've even given the can away after crushing it in my hands. Good luck finding the secret. While it's possible, it's highly unlikely. They'll spend all of 10/15 seconds looking at it before chucking it in the bin. Honestly, for $15 this is GREAT.

Pegasus, I'm not trying to change your opinion, we all have our preferences, but for what it's worth I think you're thinking like a magician. From a layperson's perspective they've seen the coin, probably even handled it, one moment it's in your hand, the next it's gone with a dramatic rattle INSIDE the can! They will have zero recollection of the coin not being visible for all of one second. It's an incredibly striking moment which is extremely impactful.

Posted: Mar 31, 2022 06:44 pm

I'm playing around with this - I like it! Only problem I'm having is extracting the coin at the end: it's quite tricky without, shall we say, reactivating the gimmick. Either that or I'm just shaking it around for ages till boredom sets in. Any tips?

People are much more aware of germs and other related issues these days, and I believe that demonstrating this type of effect, with allegedly "random" cans being used, will make most people uneasy. Sadly, no "coin in can" type effects can really be considered "practical" anymore.
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