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Kirie told her everything as she was one of roughly 3 sane people left in the town, the other two being our two doomed protagonists. The section of the last chapter once she is separated from them is either:- Her interpretation of what happened after.- Kirie's telepathy manifesting from the lost chapter and allowing her to pass the info on.- A bizarre time paradox caused by the spiral allowing Kirie to share the info with her.
Kurozu-Cho is Kirie's PurgatoryThe town's curse keeps repeating endlessly- because she has not yet been purified of her own apathy and distrust. All she has to do to escape is to leave with Shuichi during the earliest stages of the spiral curse. But she never did.
Spiral City is in the early stages of a Spiral Nemesis- Alternatively, it's an early attempt by the Anti-Spirals to prevent Spiral Nemesis. It's a device that draws Spiral Power and the lifeforms that generate it into itself and contains them. For whatever reason, they couldn't get it to work on a scale bigger than a small town, so they moved on to the falling moon plan instead.
- What made you thing they couldn't get it to work? What do you thing Kittan destroyed?
Impossibly large caverns? Check
Whatever happened in Kurozu-Cho, it's happening again.
Horrific Sealed Evil in a Can? Check
Only one specially girl (the main character) may be able to stop it, but as good as dies trying ? Check
Of course, it goes without saying that Silent Hill is on a Hellmouth too.- Oh, God.
The Spiral City is actually a fragment of The demon world of Ghul in Eisenhorn. More specifically, Yssarile's barque. Thus placing Uzumaki and Warhammer 40,000 in the same continuity.
Obligatory warnings: Firstly, spoilers (untagged because the whole thing would have to be spoiler). Secondly, comprehensive evidence. which means a huge wall of text, unfortunately. You have been warned.
- Firstly, in the chapter where we get the first glimpse of Yssarile's 'civilisation' (at the auto-séance on Promody), the writing on the ghost city was said to "simply spiralled and meandered up across the massive wall face, looping and circling." It was also "sickening to look at." Shuichi himself gets sick of looking at the spirals right from the beginning of Uzumaki.
- Secondly, when Eisenhorn has Aemos do research about what is hidden on Ghul, Aemos is nearly driven insane and the poor guy was writing out his research results. in spiralling sentences across his entire room. "His notes have taken the form of the chart itself." This fits in perfectly well with Shuichi's father's collection of spirals in his room.
- Thirdly, Eisenhorn gives the suggestion that the surface of Ghul itself may have massive spirals. "The warped one's entire culture, certainly their language, had been built upon expressions of location and place. I imagined that the inscribed wall we had seen during the auto-séance had been part of just such a maze of lines, from a time when Promody had looked like Ghul, the capital world." Later, a small spiral is also described as "a really tiny version of the mazed surface of this planet." In Uzumaki, the corrupted inhabitants eventually rebuild the entire town in the shape of a spiral.
- Fourthly, when the archaeologist Kenzer was making a recording of the same small spiral on one of the walls, said spiral acted as some sort of doorway between different dimensions, with Ghul being so complex that it has more than three dimensions; only certain points can act as entries or exits. Given this, we can assume that Yssarile's Barque has been exercising the same kind of power over the singular land tunnel linking Kurozu-Cho to the outer world. As the inhabitants gradually become more corrupt, it gains enough power to create a pocket dimension. Failing all else, how do you explain a black hole appearing in a girl's forehead?
- Fifthly, the Mausoleum of Ghul is vast beyond comprehension. The floor is also described to be made of stone. Time also malfunctions within the chamber, as Eisenhorn himself mentions. Obvious link here; the chamber of the Spiral Abomination was vast; Year Inside, Hour Outside in full force near the end. If Kirie's words are anything to go by, at the end Yssarile's Barque is capable of controlling time itself. Furthermore, the chamber is made with stone of petrified people. Eisenhorn may not have noticed this due to lack of light.
- Sixthly, the interior of the Mausoleum is covered with spiralling script (not surprisingly) and something the size of an Imperial Hive city of a geometric shape. That basically describes how Kirie views the Spiral Abomination by the end of Uzumaki.
- Firstly, why were the effects in Uzumaki not apparent on Eisenhorn's team? We can safely assume that this was because they were never exposed to the full power of Yssarile's Barque; only the periphery effects. All they ever had was indirect contact, and even when Eisenhorn was near it he was too busy fighting Glaw. and a singular fight with Glaw will never take up as much time as The Barque had been hiding under Kurozu-Cho. What we see in Uzumaki is the true power of corruption an artefact of a Chaos/warp god can unleash. Yes, it is not pretty.
- Secondly, how did the Barque get under the town in the first place? Well, given how the Imperial Navy annihilated the planet (i.e. blew it up); we can say that its unique multi-dimension quality means fragments of the planet travel through space and time! Due to the Timey Wimey-ness of this, it is entirely possible for Yssarile's Barque to be underneath Kurozu-Cho even before Earth was created.
- Thirdly, why is it the Barque that survives the Imperial bombardment? Well, it IS a remnant artefact of a warp god, and they would be savvy enough to have a plan B. For most warp gods, this boils down to finding a method to consume enough souls to regenerate. Given the amount of power it exerts over the people of Kurozu-Cho, I'd say it is well on its way to recovery.
Oh, what the heck. Dan Abnett may actually have been inspired by Uzumaki. If this theory is true it definitely explains why Glaw was so desperate to attain it as a weapon.Am I going insane, or does this make sense to anyone!?(To end on a happy note. send in the Grey Knights!)
The. thing in Spiral City was actively trying to prevent word of the curse from spreading from the very start.
Let's start with Shuichi. Shuichi has some sort of hyper-awareness of supernatural phenomena or whatever. And the spiral-curse-thing was aware of this. Both of his parents were eliminated at the very start to decrease his credibility, so that the curse would gain more time to manifest via everyone believing that Shuinchi's warnings are just a result of his strangeness (which only worked in the beginning when there appeared to be nothing wrong) and grief from losing his parents (the curse keeps on making him see his father all over the place). Thus, even when it should have become obvious that there was something seriously wrong with the town no one budges until it's too late.
Then we have Kirie. The lost chapter was provided to explain how Kirie was telling the story. Somehow she had retained her telepathic power (but didn't know how to unlock them or the fact that she still had them at all) and the spiral-curse-thing knew. And thus the events of the curse happened mostly around Kirie in an attempt to eliminate her early on. While she was trapped in Spiral City limbo Kirie somehow managed to unlock her telepathic powers. The story is being told to someone else living in Kurozu-Cho in the future who is about to undergo the curse.
Kirie is wrong about the spiral-thing's motivations.The spiral is actually a victim of the last iteration of the curse, and was trying to get as many people out of there as possible before the curse reached the Closed Circle stage.
Ties in with the above. The reason why things keep going wrong around her is that she is the person who, in each iteration, starts the curse in the first place. Shuichi has some degree of mystical awareness of his own, but told the wrong person that he'd found out about the curse. Kirie is lying to him because a) she cast the spell to make him hers forever, and b)he could break the spell by killing her.
Sometime after the ending of the story, Everyone got better.- Perhaps people frozen in the city can communicate with one another. Which means.
it's this troper's interprtation that whatever it is below the city is either an ancient (think lost city of Atlantis or Mu) or alien machine built there long ago that can change reality so long as it's related to a spiral and perhaps it's malfunctioning, which would explain why so many random and bizarre things happen in the town
Uzumaki was written specifically to place the "spiral obsession" in all the readers.- Oh, you sick bastard.
- You want proof?Just do a Google image search for "natural spiral" and LOOK. The sheer number of spirals that can be found in nature alone is simply horrific. There are even tutorials that show how to put spirals in your hair! One thing's for sure-you will never see anything the same way again.
People who succumb to the curse are assimilated into the spiral, which holds the collective consciousness of every individual who was claimed by it.
Uzumaki is set in the Naruto universe, just several thousand years after.Kurozu-Cho is where the Village in the Whirlpool once stood.
Kirie is telling her story to the TARDIS or the DoctorWho else can she be talking to from a place where time has stopped? And who else is better to deal with a time bending Eldritch Abomination apart from the Doctor?
The Spiral doesn't do anything to Kirie because it's Love at First Sight.Everything from the Jack-in-the-box boy, to the Love Struck. Typhoon, (and Shuichi's mention of her being "hypnotic") are indicators of this. This theory carries more weight in the final "Lost Chapter" epilogue where Kirie is, technically, the first to ever lay eyes on the Spiral in the sky. I couldn't figure out Whether it was an alternate universe (and perhaps taking place AFTER the events that short haired Kirie encountered) or the same one in the manga. However, Staying with the same "in love" theme (in the Galaxies chapter) the Uzumaki just polices all the different universal shards in which the different Kiries exist in and occasionally tries to contact one of her many versions.
However it doesn't try too hard and removes traces of itself quickly since It already has the short haired one (shown in the Completion chapter after Kirie refuses Shuichi's prodding to "keep fighting" thus basically giving up and accepting the Spiral which is what it probably wanted) and, for now, it doesn't need to go through the process of wiping out the village since it's satisfied.
Let me tell you a story.Once, there were an ancient people who built their city into a great drill with which to pierce the heavens. To reach such heights, it was designed to consume and integrate matter from the surroundings in order to build itself higher and higher. As punishment, the gods cast the people and their city down into a pit, consecrating the surroundings so that the city could not touch them. With nothing else to consume, the giant construct soon converted it's creators into more fuel for itself. Unable to use the material surrounding it, it is forced to lure more beings down into the pit through the mechanisms inherent within the spiral. One day, once enough matter has been converted, the great drill designed to puncture the heavens themselves will break through the consecration and begin absorbing the countryside until it reaches its goal.
- Alternatively, the drill is malfunctioning (due to the gods smiting it and its extreme age) and instead of forming one long drill-shaped structure, it is manifesting in the many small spirals. Hence, in the final chapter, the town's subterranean center has only built a bunch of lumpy spirals like so many untreated tumors, instead of something more drill-like. The drill used to have some kinda AI, it has long forgotten its intended purpose and can only make some confused attempt that only vaguely resembles its original goal.
The Lost Chapter takes place in the future, and every time the spiral reforms it returns to the exact same place in time, until eventually someone breaks the cycle.
The town is on the site of a spiral-shaped "blemish" or "fold" in the fabric of the universe.The town sits on top of a particularly strong underground Black Spiral Dancer pit from the Old World of Darkness.
The whole town is essentially dancing the Black Spiral Labyrinth towards Malfeas and undergoing the psychological ordeals and trials while descending towards wretched enlightenment. This is why characters who accept and understand the situation stay alive the longest even when that understanding doesn't have a rational application. It targets and eliminates those who fail to comprehend it's corruption.
The ending of the series was intended to be Bittersweet rather than a Downer.While it takes place on a relatively small scale, ultimately Uzumaki is a Cosmic Horror Story. The Spiral City shown in the last chapter is a sentient Eldritch Location that has survived for possibly longer than the entire history of the human race. It's capable of altering time and space, sending what looks like a good-sized naval detachment to the bottom of the ocean with the same ease as a raft made of broken planks. Even the obvious route of leaving early in the story doesn't seem to offer any hope of escape from it for the residents of Kurozu-cho, because it's revealed that cremations outside of the city still result in the smoke taking on the spiral pattern, meaning that the residents themselves are its human property. Death offers no relief, because the Spiral City can entrap the souls of those it fails to take alive.
That unfathomable, godlike Time Abyss is the antagonist. The protagonists are two high school students. This isn't Lovecraft Lite, and they're not going to Punch Out Cthulhu. The fact that they're eventually going to succumb to it is a foregone conclusion, given how vastly disproportionate its power is to their own.
In this context, what counts as a victory had to be very seriously reevaluated. The ending that Kirie and Shuichi get is really pretty much the best thing that they could hope for. The Spiral City causes people to become obsessed with it, either in fascination or eternal, undying horror (as was the case with Shouchi's mother, who was trapped next to the thing that terrified her even after death). The closest anyone could realistically get to defeating the Spiral City is to avoid giving it the all-consuming attention that it seems to want. In the final, eternal moment when the curse reaches its completion, Shuichi and Kirie are holding each other close, and looking at their loved one rather than at the city like everyone else (including Kirie's parents). Kirie is apparently not swallowed up entirely by it, since she's able to narrate the story rather than just talk about how great or how unfathomably terrifying spirals are until the end of time. Shuichi probably isn't either, although we never get his perspective.
Their love doesn't save them. They still suffer a Fate Worse than Death, trapped and conscious next to the Spiral City. But, that was going to happen no matter what they did. Not even suicide was an option, from the moment the curse started to take effect. In the end, the only thing they can do is send one last "Fuck you" to the city, and they do that. It's not much, but at least it is something.
The Spiral is an example of a Keter Class Memetic Kill Agent in the wild.It's a cognitohazard that's infectious and can spread relatively easy from one person to another. That definitely fits the profile of a Foundationverse memetic kill agent. Its tendency to be fatal or at the very least leave its victims in a state worse than death would necessitate a Keter rating, given how easily it can spread if someone comes into contact and the fact that it's already a known killer.
- I could be remembering this wrong, but isn't one of the Memetic Kill Agents on the site spiral shaped?
At some point, probably hundreds of thousands or even millions of years ago, an extraterrestrial society sent out probes from their native system. They were aimed at nearby stars at first in an attempt to make contact with another intelligent civilization, but weren't necessarily expected to find anything immediately. They were designed to telepathically hail any society that they did encounter and point it in the right direction to communicate with their makers, but more immediately, they were designed to take advantage of any uninhabited planet that they came across to make more of themselves. Those, they would send out to other systems further from the home world of the society that developed them. Eventually, by sheer dint of numbers, they or their descendants were bound to find someone.
That's the basic concept of a Von Neumann Probe. It's a theoretical means of communicating with aliens across interstellar distances, and has been discussed with varying degrees of seriousness for generations.
In this particular case, though, one of the descendants of the original probes sent out mutated. After spending geological epochs floating through the gulf of space, enough damage to the original software of the Probe accumulated over the generations to create something genuinely dangerous. Its original goal of communicating with a target population through telepathic messaging evolved to a sort of mind control, and then the program originally intended to have it build more of itself short-circuited completely to focus on a single, spiral-shaped piece of the blueprint. The new probe, now essentially a paperclip maximizer with the sole intent to make spirals and the ability to control human minds, landed on Earth in the area where Kurozu-cho would eventually be built. While thankfully it can no longer replicate itself, it has continued to build on its original design, to the point of being unrecognizable. Thanks to the vastly superior technology of its makers, it is more an Eldritch Abomination than a simple glitchey computer, capable of completely dooming any human beings caught in its pull.
The SCP Foundation will do something about Kurouzu-cho and the Spiral. Nagito is a victim of the Spiral Curse.His previous high school was called �Spiral High School� and he�s shown to have spirals in his eyes when Laughing Mad. Perhaps he escaped before things really went down and never realized what was deteriorating his mental state, and once he was no longer exposed to the Spiral, his obsessive nature shifted to the concept of hope instead.
That's the basic concept of a Von Neumann Probe. It's a theoretical means of communicating with aliens across interstellar distances, and has been discussed with varying degrees of seriousness for generations.
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