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Sorcerous Blade Channeling & Acid Orb
I don't think so, but given that the Sorcerer feat Sorcerous Blade Channeling allows one to use one's ranged sorcerer attack powers as a melee attack, and given that Acid Orb can be used as a RBA, does it follow that Acid Orb combined with Sorcerous Blade Channeling, can be used as a MBA?
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This has been discussed a few times on this board. But it was a while ago. If you can search, that might be the easiest option.
Xyrlove Woodsoul
First Post
I figured if you could use it as a RBA, it would mention something like that in the feat's description, that is, that you can use a power that can be used as as RBA, as a MBA. Otherwise, it's kind of like getting 2 feats in one (melee training), which is a bit much, I guess.
Kingreaper
Adventurer
As far as I can tell, by RAW, it means you can use it as a RBA, with range "melee 1"
A melee ranged basic attack.
This seems slight odd, but that's what you get with RAW.
1of3
Explorer
I figured if you could use it as a RBA, it would mention something like that in the feat's description, that is, that you can use a power that can be used as as RBA, as a MBA. Otherwise, it's kind of like getting 2 feats in one (melee training), which is a bit much, I guess.
On the other hand, this trick is pretty much the only reason to take acid orb. So you spend a feat and an at-will slot.
Aulirophile
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On the other hand, this trick is pretty much the only reason to take acid orb. So you spend a feat and an at-will slot.
Warlord. At least one reason/round, right there.jbear
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Im doubtful that this is the RAW interpretation, but as a DM I would allow you to use it as a MBA with that feat. And although you have a Warlord in the party you're still probably still going to choose other at wills, lets say Dragonfrost which is also a RBA and has a push effect.
DracoSuave
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Melee Basic Attack is a specific power. Unless you got a feat specifically changing it to that power, you cannot use it as that power.
Seekers have a power, Guardian Hunter, that can be used at Melee or Ranged inherently, and it counts -only- as a ranged basic attack. Nothing in Sorcerous Blade Channeling is any more special than that.
Benlo
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Doesn't one of the Shadar-Kai specific feats let you do this? Of course, I remember that one being more to the point and clear.
Aulirophile
First Post
Im doubtful that this is the RAW interpretation, but as a DM I would allow you to use it as a MBA with that feat. And although you have a Warlord in the party you're still probably still going to choose other at wills, lets say Dragonfrost which is also a RBA and has a push effect.
And targets Fort. A defense that, on many many monsters, is actually higher then AC. Not exactly a good bread-n-butter choice (which is what an RBA is going to become if you have a Warlord).
latinoosvaldo
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I think it's so specific that you would need a large deal of causality to have this "combo" break your game. Choose one: does count or does not count as MBA and go with this. For me, it would not count, but because I think it's out of context for sorcerers. But I allow my players use it as MBA with Blade Channeler because it feels more inclusive regarding rulles adjucation.
DracoSuave
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I think it's so specific that you would need a large deal of causality to have this "combo" break your game. Choose one: does count or does not count as MBA and go with this. For me, it would not count, but because I think it's out of context for sorcerers. But I allow my players use it as MBA with Blade Channeler because it feels more inclusive regarding rulles adjucation.
Do you count the Seeker's Melee at-will as a melee basic attack?
It's melee, and counts as a ranged basic attack, so I'm curious if the ruling is consistant.
jbear
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And targets Fort. A defense that, on many many monsters, is actually higher then AC. Not exactly a good bread-n-butter choice (which is what an RBA is going to become if you have a Warlord).
A lot of people ditch Fort based powers on that basis. Yeah it's great to target will or ref because lots of monsters are brutes or soldiers. but there are still skirmishers, lurkers and controllers. And having the chance to hurl someone off a cliff is worth the risk of having to target higher defenses.
In my game my wife plays a Shaman/Ranger Hybrid who dishes out RBA like candy very often to her sister, playing a cosmic sorceress. With 20 CHA and Implement Expertise she has been nailing even the big brutes with the Shamans equivalent of OAs. She pushed ogres back into terrain that was seriously hindering them in combat and had a massive beneficial influence on the outcome.
As DracoSuave points out pretty clearly it's not legal to achieve what the OP proposes. But I personally would let my players get away with it if they combined it with what I consider a luckluster power like AcidOrb.
As far as being out of context for sorcerors to achieve this, I disagree. The cosmic sorceror for example has a feature that puts a constant aura that causes radiant damage to those enemies that begin their turn adjacent, or if they change phase gives them a +1 bonus to ac for every adjacent enemy. A drow sorceress can surround herself with darkness (with sustain minor) and wade into combat with the rest of them. Admitedly this is a daily power, but definitely not out of line with what a sorceror can or can't do. How one individually chooses to play a sorceror is another story.
This has been discussed a few times on this board. But it was a while ago. If you can search, that might be the easiest option.
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