Exploring the celestial realms through magic

Celestial being magic is a type of magic that is often associated with beings from the celestial realm. These beings, commonly known as celestial beings, are believed to be highly powerful and mystical entities that reside in the heavens. They are often associated with divine or supernatural qualities and are said to possess immense knowledge and wisdom. Celestial being magic is believed to draw its power from these celestial beings. It is said to be a pure and divine form of magic that requires a deep connection with the celestial realm. Practitioners of this type of magic often undergo rigorous training and meditation to develop their connection and harness the power of celestial beings.

I have been toying with the idea of writing an in-game book on magical theory pulling from various experts. This type of OOG discussion would feed into an IG theory building.

PC Ilarion Deòrsa Ramiel Earthdream, Constelaţie Selunari, Guardian of the Earth Healers Guild of Dragonreach, Disciple of the Whisperers PC Korbin Hrafnson, moody Biata rogue NPC Grin, Grianadhmad, Birchskin Child of Autumn, Grove Master of the Heartwood. Basically, all life forces are an amalgamation of all planar energies in a constant flux, so Life energies may use Earth energies as a path to provide their way in, but Chaos takes a more direct route.

Practitioners of this type of magic often undergo rigorous training and meditation to develop their connection and harness the power of celestial beings. The magic spells and rituals associated with celestial being magic are often focused on invoking or channeling the energy and guidance of celestial beings. These spells can vary in nature, ranging from healing and protection spells to spells for guidance and wisdom.

Magic Culture: Celestial and Earth

Why are the magics called Celestial and Earth? It isn't like there is any mechanical link between being able to see the sky and cast Celestial Magic, or be on earth (ground) to cast Earth Magic.

Perhaps a more descriptive term is Foundation (Stone, Lightning, Ice, Flame) Magic and Primal (Order, Chaos, Life, Death) Magic?

Thoughts for discussion?

(I put it in Races and Cultures because it isn't rules, nor a general discussion, more on the cultural aspect of magic nomenclature . I guess.)

Alavatar

Baron

I have been toying with the idea of writing an in-game book on magical theory pulling from various experts. This type of OOG discussion would feed into an IG theory building.

Samyania

Scholar

Having Magisterium and Ministerium Scholars, each flexible in four directions (one of them a Forbidden Direction) would be awesome. I think it would help a lot with people who want to be able to heal but not just heal. It would also help decouple the idea of "Divine/Profane" and "Arcane" magic, if both halves of magic looked more similar.

OOG: Rachel Miller

IG: Lady Vellis Valeriana Tsalarioth of House Phoenix
Squire to Duke Sir Marcus Husarri Saephis

Samyania

Scholar

OOG: Rachel Miller

IG: Lady Vellis Valeriana Tsalarioth of House Phoenix
Squire to Duke Sir Marcus Husarri Saephis

Grianadhmad

Artisan

I was going to respond and then quickly realised that you're right. It took me a while to actually think of any semi-decent connexion / explanation.

I suppose, Earth Magic tends to concern itself with the cycle of life, as in Gaea's lifeforce, and that the power of earth itself is anathema to the undead because the dead are supposed to be buried within her. In this way earth magic (and its opposite, chaos magic), life, and death are all intricately related.

Whereas Celestial Magic (which I'm not that experienced with as of yet) tends to deal purely with magic of elements, and I suppose it could be said that it's fancier, somewhat alien magic to the earth itself. Also "celestial" can mean not just "of sky or heaven," but also "divine" or "of higher glory."

OG: Taed Price, Alliance Traverse General Manager / Plot Team member

PC: Ilarion Deòrsa Ramiel Earthdream, Constelaţie Selunari, Guardian of the Earth Healers Guild of Dragonreach, Disciple of the Whisperers
PC: Korbin Hrafnson, moody Biata rogue
NPC: "Grin," Grianadhmad, Birchskin Child of Autumn, Grove Master of the Heartwood

Alavatar

Baron

It kind of is. Sometimes the most effective means of changing the paradigm of a cultural perception is to alter the nomenclature. Going further down the rabbit hole than just the top level "Celestial" vs. "Earth" may result in other discoveries that could change people's perceptions. It is entirely feasible that a potential outcome may be an impact to how people expect the magics be utilized just by referring to the differently than they been in the past.

Mostly I wanted to spark discussion.

Samyania

Scholar

Sorry for badly (possibly willfully) misreading your original post.

Out-of-game theory: Healers are either clerics or druids, and druids are really just nature clerics. It's very difficult to decouple the cultural idea of healing as being the provenance of a deity, and having the general concept of the planet stand in for an explicit deity is far enough away from a literal god that it's not quite against the spirit of the rules. I think this is most clearly highlighted in the idea of the "opposite" of this magic being something which Desecrates and Defiles--explicitly unholy (by the universal dogma of the land that should have no dogma).

As for celestial magic, I don't know, maybe it's because wizzard hats have stars. It's probably as simple as "this is the other, non-evil opposite of the Earth, and the opposite of Earth is Sky."

In game, it's harder to say, since Earth scholars tend to develop such a solid internal conception of their bond to the Earth allowing for magic that it's hard to define what aspects of that mindset come from the culture, and which aspects of the culture are added by players developing the mindset.

For obvious reasons, I've thought more about what makes Earth magic Earth magic than what makes Celestial magic Celestial.

Does Alavatar have any thoughts on the Celestial subject?

OOG: Rachel Miller

IG: Lady Vellis Valeriana Tsalarioth of House Phoenix
Squire to Duke Sir Marcus Husarri Saephis

Alavatar

Baron

Alavatar's perspective is that magic, in all forms except Fey Curse, is Planar in nature. Specifically, that casters utilize their incantations to pull energy from the various primary planes that manifests in the caster's hands to perform the desired effect and that each effect has a corresponding element.

For instance, healing someone is pulling from the Plane of Life to make something heal faster than normal (or come back to Life). He also thinks that Earth Magic's reversible spells is indicative that Earth Casters can twist the Planar Energy to unravel or alter it from it's native source more easily than Celestial casters, so Necromancy is the twisting of energy from the Plane of Life. He also thinks the Plane of Chaos is not intrinsically Necromantic, but instead a plane of entropy constantly changing and breaking down and rebuilding. Contrasting with the Plane of Order which is unchanging and static in nature.

And his theory is that Celestial casters can combine Planar magics more easily than Earth Casters, which he would argue is how Eldritch Force came to be.

JordarAd

Newbie

One of my long-standing characters in NERO (who went with the switch to Alliance) completed a theoretical text on the nature of Celestial and Earth magics called "Magis di Terrus".

In his book, he theorized that it is the Planar energies of the Primal (Life, Death, Chaos and Order) Planes and Elemental (Earth, Fire, Air, Water) Planes and the Planar Web that create and alter invocations to draw upon the planes that connect Fortannis (Terra) to the magical energies that power spells. Basically, all life forces are an amalgamation of all planar energies in a constant flux, so Life energies may use Earth energies as a path to provide their way in, but Chaos takes a more direct route. (This also explains - to him, at least- why fire spells don't burn down forests and why "restore limb" won't work with a broken arm.)

OOC- Jordan C Brun, Angry Local Logistics Guy, Alt Plot Head: "Abominations of Solus" Campaign 2019-2020, Utah Alliance

IC- Eros Noque Wytherwynd, Elven Scholar / Lexington, Human "Skilled Tradesman" / Brother Faux (Fox), Scribe / Rodu'uk, Blood of Thess, High Orc Hunter

One common aspect of celestial being magic is the use of celestial symbols and sigils. These symbols are believed to hold the power and energy of celestial beings, and practitioners often use them in their rituals and spells. The symbols are often etched or drawn on various objects or written on parchment, and are used to invoke the presence of celestial beings or to harness their power. Celestial being magic is often associated with positive and benevolent energies. It is believed to bring light and enlightenment to the practitioner, as well as aid in spiritual growth and transformation. The celestial beings are said to offer guidance and protection to those who seek their assistance, and practitioners of celestial being magic often rely on their wisdom and guidance to navigate their spiritual journeys. Overall, celestial being magic is an ancient and mystical form of magic that is believed to draw its power from celestial beings. It is a path of spirituality and enlightenment, often practiced by those who seek divine guidance and assistance on their spiritual journeys..

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