Exploring the Magic Institutions: A Deep Dive into the World of Wizarding Schools

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The Magic Institution Series is a series of novels written by various authors that revolve around the theme of magical institutions or schools. These novels typically follow young protagonists who are enrolled in these institutions and learn to harness their magical abilities. The series draws inspiration from popular fantasy literature, such as J.K. Rowling's Harry Potter series, and explores various aspects of magic education, including spellcasting, potion-making, and magical creatures. Each novel in the series offers a unique take on the concept of magical institutions, with different settings and rules governing the use of magic.


My father used one of those all through my youth. It was on a Ben Franklin type open fireplace. It worked great! The only drawback was noise, they aren't quiet.
He never had a problem w/ creosote. The pull in the middle scrapes it from the tubes. Every so often you push/pull it a few times.

My brick chimney runs up through the center of the house, it s always warm, always a strong draft, and creosote has never been a problem even when smoldering the fire in the old smoke dragon. The place I lived before this had the brick chimney running up the outside of the house, it was a bear to get drafting at times, it took forever to warm up on cold days, and it would plug-up where the flue pipe connected to it.

Magic heat wood stoce

Each novel in the series offers a unique take on the concept of magical institutions, with different settings and rules governing the use of magic. One common feature of the Magic Institution Series is the presence of a prestigious institution where the main characters attend classes and participate in magical tournaments or competitions. Often, these institutions are shrouded in mystery and secrecy, captivating readers' imaginations.

Magic heat recovery addon

Browsing around today and found this interesting gizmo.
Recipe for creosote buildup or good idea?



Northern Tool - Magic Heat Reclaimer for Wood, Oil or Coal Stove - 6 in., Model# MH-6-R customer reviews - product reviews - read top consumer ratings

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probably would give you a bunch more heat, but lowering your stack temps thus leading to 'theoretically' more creosote build up and a lousy draft

might make the stove a ##### to get started.

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Recipe for creasote buildup

Cooling the flue gasses can only increase creosote build-up

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That was my thought about lowering the stack temp and allowing creosote buildup.
After a very long read at the site i guess it only fires up when the stack is wasting heat, turns off when the stack is to low.

Might be an interesting addon for under $200.
Like a second blower but using only waste heat Hmmm.

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That double elbow above the heat exchanger in the picture will do more for creasote build up than the heat exchanger.

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I would never attempt this on an EPA certified stove ( the stove looks like a Vogelzang defender which is EPA certified) which operate on lower flue temperatures. If you need more heat buy a bigger stove.

If you are using an EPA exempt appliance the risks are lower but yes your creosote potential rises.

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My father used one of those all through my youth. It was on a Ben Franklin type open fireplace. It worked great! The only drawback was noise, they aren't quiet.
He never had a problem w/ creosote. The pull in the middle scrapes it from the tubes. Every so often you push/pull it a few times.

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They are fine on an old inefficient stove with no baffles or any thing in it. I had one installed on one of those old "fire in a metal box" stoves, worked good as long as I was burning dry wood and not trying to burn low and slow. Try any of that, you'll get a face full of smoke every time you go to reload, due to plugged up flue.

I don't remember it being all that loud, course it wasn't in my living room either.

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they actualy do work bretty good on something like the old barrel stoves. however on a modern stove unless you clean the chimney allmost weekly ,a chimney fire is in your future.

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On a newer EPA stove, not if it was free. Recipe for disaster, I never thought they were well suited to any stove chimney. Stack temp is a key ingredient to keeping the chimney cleaner.

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I have one in the house and one in the garage, about 8 years now, must be on borrowed time :frown: Clean the chimneys once a year, only a handful of junk from each. Englander 30 in the house and a Century 300007 in the garage both epa stoves.

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Knew a guy that burned a Harmon stove for years with no issues at all, he just had to have one of those and put it in. Bout a month later his chimney caught fire. That was so hot it burst the seams on the inner insulated pipe walls when they took it out to inspect it.

I sure wouldn't want to put a homeowner's policy to the test with one of those added into the installation.

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My father used one of those all through my youth. It was on a Ben Franklin type open fireplace. It worked great! The only drawback was noise, they aren't quiet.
He never had a problem w/ creosote. The pull in the middle scrapes it from the tubes. Every so often you push/pull it a few times.


My dad & I had one on our stoves in the 80's. Had no problems w/creosote.Was able to keep house 72-75 deg. Our pipe was 8 in dia.

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I bought one last yr. Worked awesome. The inner t-stat keeps the flue warm. The fan only blows heat, just like the stove fans. The handle in the front pulls out and scrapes the tubes for better efficiency. I had no creosote at all last yr. I only burnt wood. I paid $179 from northern tool. I got my $$ worth in the extra heat last yr. Blew 130 deg heat. Keep in mind if your thermometer reads 400 deg on the out side of the pipe, the middle will be like 1000 deg. Only problem is if you lose power, you need to take it out.

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Friend of mine had been using one for the last 4 years in his shop. He had his insurance man come out in October to do an "insurance tune up". Insurance man said they would drop him as a client if he didn't remove it. It worked great, but I guess there must be a bigger risk for something catastrophic happening with these things than most people think. Or, it's just an insurance company's hang up.

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When I had a stove that was not airtight and burned wood like a trashburner, (i.e. very high stack temps unless you closed the damper) it worked well. I would not consider it on an airtight stove.

Mine was thermostatically controlled and shut itself on and off.

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Had one back when I was a kid on an Ashley circulator stove, it added heat for sure to the house, just not sure what the effect was on the chimney as I didn't have to clean it.

Devils advocate here: Why would this be worse on an EPA stove, when they have already burned most of the particulates that cause the creosote in the first place vs an old smoker that's sending it up the flue?

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Agree for the most part, but a secondary combustion chamber on some stoves allows you to burn off the smoke at high heat first, before it reaches the flue.

Better alternative to the Magic Heat is to just place a fan or portable behind the stove if you have room. Not having room, leave the flue gases alone and control most of the fire intensity with the air intake vents.

Magic Heat is a waste of money in my book--a noisey, ugly beast and a bear to keep clean.

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Devils advocate here: Why would this be worse on an EPA stove, when they have already burned most of the particulates that cause the creosote in the first place vs an old smoker that's sending it up the flue?

I was thinking the same thing.
At the same time I’m not so sure it would be as effective (for heat extraction) on an EPA certified stove. The flue pipe from the EPA firebox I’m using now runs noticeably cooler than the old smoke dragon did.

I also don’t believe cooling the flue gasses automatically means more creosote deposits… it would depend on the set-up. Creosote forms not because the flue gasses are cool, rather it’s because the chimney walls cool down causing condensation (of sorts) inside. My brick chimney runs up through the center of the house, it’s always warm, always a strong draft, and creosote has never been a problem… even when “smoldering” the fire in the old smoke dragon. The place I lived before this had the brick chimney running up the outside of the house, it was a bear to get drafting at times, it took forever to warm –up on cold days, and it would plug-up where the flue pipe connected to it. So yeah, if you’ve got 15-20 feet of chimney pipe running up the outside of your house, or a masonry chimney on an outside wall, then I’m thinking cooling the flue gasses would be a bad idea. But on the other hand, if your chimney pipe runs up through the house, with only a couple feet sticking out the roof, then cooling the flue gasses wouldn’t be so bad… and may not even be an issue at all.

I dump a ton of (relatively) cool air into my flue without creosote problems. I have 2-feet of six-inch vertical pipe coming off the firebox, which connects to an eight-inch “tee” and 2-feet of eight-inch horizontal pipe to the chimney. Also connected to that eight-inch “tee” is the four-inch pipe from the LP furnace… LP appliances use “hooded” exhaust so it’s continuously dumping cool air into the end of the horizontal section of pipe. And the three-inch exhaust from LP water heater also connects to the brick chimney, continuously dumping more cool air into the chimney. Like I said, running up the center of the house like that it’s always warm and always sucking… sucking hard. Creosote just ain’t an issue. Actually I think dumping that cool (actually room temperature warm) air from the furnace and water heater hoods into the flue allows it to free-flow better creating a higher velocity through the chimney. faster than it would be with just the wood burner connected.

I sure wouldn't want to put a homeowner's policy to the test with one of those added into the installation.
Magic institution series

The series also delves into the personal growth and development of the main characters as they navigate the challenges and friendships that come with attending a magic institution. Themes of friendship, loyalty, and self-discovery are interwoven into the narratives, making for compelling and relatable storytelling. Furthermore, the Magic Institution Series explores the ethical implications of magic and the responsibility that comes with wielding such power. Characters often face dilemmas and must make difficult choices that have long-lasting consequences, adding depth and complexity to the stories. Readers of the Magic Institution Series are drawn to its engaging and immersive world-building, as well as the relatable and well-rounded characters. The series has gained a dedicated fanbase over the years, eagerly anticipating the release of each new installment. In conclusion, the Magic Institution Series offers readers a captivating and enchanting journey into the world of magic schools and the individuals who inhabit them. With its compelling narratives, richly imagined settings, and relatable characters, it continues to captivate readers, leaving them eagerly awaiting the next installment..

Reviews for "Sports and Competitions in Magic Institutions: Quidditch and Beyond"

1. Emily - 2 stars - I was initially excited to read the Magic Institution series, as I am a fan of fantasy and magic-themed books. However, I found the whole series to be quite disappointing. The plot was predictable and lacked originality, while the characters felt one-dimensional and forgettable. Additionally, the writing style was underwhelming, with repetitive descriptions and mundane dialogue. Overall, I cannot say I enjoyed the Magic Institution series and would not recommend it to fellow fantasy enthusiasts.
2. Jason - 1 star - The Magic Institution series was a major letdown for me. The world-building was weak, with very little explanation or depth given to the magical system or the lore. This made it difficult to fully immerse myself in the story or care about the characters. Speaking of characters, they were incredibly cliché and lacked any real development or complexity. The pacing was also off, with long stretches of nothing happening followed by rushed and unsatisfying resolutions. Unfortunately, I found this series to be a forgettable and unenjoyable read.
3. Sarah - 2 stars - I have read countless fantasy series, but the Magic Institution series failed to captivate me. The magic system was convoluted and inconsistently explained, making it hard to follow the plot or understand the characters' abilities. The romance in the series felt forced and lacked chemistry, while the action scenes were poorly executed and left much to be desired. Additionally, the dialogue was stilted and unrealistic, making it difficult to connect with the characters on any level. Overall, I was disappointed by the Magic Institution series and would not recommend it to others.

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