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manga and light novels are usually too detailed or spoon feeding the readers

I think being teased like that is cheap writing to captivate the audience, but at least we didn t have to wait several episodes for them to reveal what they said. GakutoDeathGlare said So all it took was a single episode of Bojji training behind doors with Death-Par wasn t even that long in the anime timeline either and suddenly he s proclaimed the strongest in the world.

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Worst "training arc" ever?

I mean, just where is the pay off here? Am I supposed to believe all this? Does this mirror expect the viewer to believe all this? Either she is lying or I can only shake my head at this sort of lazy writing. I seriously hope I am wrong on this, or else I'll have to drop my overall score once again tbh.

ok but fr tho if these aren't actual bait threads, then that's kinda sad bro ngl.

If these are your actual thoughts and you're looking for some healthy discussion, um, best I can do is this: ousama ranking likes to tease us with the inaudible trope, important things are said by the characters, but the audience is left out of the loop for the time being. It happened twice in this episode, characters whisper stuff to each other and we have no idea what they're saying. Thankfully they didn't drag it on for very long and actually revealed what they said in this very episode. I think being teased like that is cheap writing to captivate the audience, but at least we didn't have to wait several episodes for them to reveal what they said.

HOWEVER, we might have to wait a few episodes to see what happened behind those doors during this, um, training, arc as you call it. Obviously something major happened that we the audience do not yet know (SHUT UP manga readers!), but of course they're going to reveal everything later. At least they did explain quite a bit in this episode, fully explaining how bojji is so tiny. Anyway, we just have to wait and be patient to find out what happened behind those doors during this TRAINING arc.

After all, it shouldn't be holding our hand all the time, right

deg said:
lol im almost sure there will be flashbacks of that training with how detailed the story telling is so far like most manga adaptation its not an anime of show and do not tell type of anime

manga and light novels are usually too detailed or spoon feeding the readers

deg said:
lol im almost sure there will be flashbacks of that training with how detailed the story telling is so far like most manga adaptation its not an anime of show and do not tell type of anime

manga and light novels are usually too detailed or spoon feeding the readers

Even if we do get flashbacks to his secret training, it would not count as part of the training arc. Anyway, at most we'll get to see him using whatever power up he got a couple of times. There's no emotional pay off, all this hard work that went into a characters training is seemingly thrown out the window here. It's hilarious to me because they like to emotionally manipulate you with certain stuff, yet they won't show Bojji's drawn out struggles? wtf.

GakutoDeathGlare said:
So all it took was a single episode of Bojji training behind doors with Death-Par (wasn't even that long in the anime timeline either) and suddenly he's proclaimed the strongest in the world!? It'll have to be some ass-pull sort of power bestowed upon him, since we all know just how pathetically weak he was physically (couldn't lift a bucket of water or seemingly even a dagger, but can somehow throw himself around no problem, not much consistency with all this, think they took the whole "physically weak" body to the extreme and it's too much).

I mean, just where is the pay off here? Am I supposed to believe all this? Does this mirror expect the viewer to believe all this? Either she is lying or I can only shake my head at this sort of lazy writing. I seriously hope I am wrong on this, or else I'll have to drop my overall score once again tbh.

What other training arcs even come close to this? I can't think of anything off the top of my head.

GakutoDeathGlare said:
So all it took was a single episode of Bojji training behind doors with Death-Par (wasn't even that long in the anime timeline either) and suddenly he's proclaimed the strongest in the world!? It'll have to be some ass-pull sort of power bestowed upon him, since we all know just how pathetically weak he was physically (couldn't lift a bucket of water or seemingly even a dagger, but can somehow throw himself around no problem, not much consistency with all this, think they took the whole "physically weak" body to the extreme and it's too much).

I mean, just where is the pay off here? Am I supposed to believe all this? Does this mirror expect the viewer to believe all this? Either she is lying or I can only shake my head at this sort of lazy writing. I seriously hope I am wrong on this, or else I'll have to drop my overall score once again tbh.

What other training arcs even come close to this? I can't think of anything off the top of my head.

ok, what if, the thing that makes no sense and hasn't been explained yet, doesn't make sense BECAUSE IT HASN'T BEEN EXPLAINED YET.

maybe it is an ass pulling, but you don't know that yet. just let the show explain itself, and if it didn't make sense after that, then complain about it.

GakutoDeathGlare said:
So all it took was a single episode of Bojji training behind doors with Death-Par (wasn't even that long in the anime timeline either) and suddenly he's proclaimed the strongest in the world!? It'll have to be some ass-pull sort of power bestowed upon him, since we all know just how pathetically weak he was physically (couldn't lift a bucket of water or seemingly even a dagger, but can somehow throw himself around no problem, not much consistency with all this, think they took the whole "physically weak" body to the extreme and it's too much).

I mean, just where is the pay off here? Am I supposed to believe all this? Does this mirror expect the viewer to believe all this? Either she is lying or I can only shake my head at this sort of lazy writing. I seriously hope I am wrong on this, or else I'll have to drop my overall score once again tbh.

What other training arcs even come close to this? I can't think of anything off the top of my head.

ok, what if, the thing that makes no sense and hasn't been explained yet, doesn't make sense BECAUSE IT HASN'T BEEN EXPLAINED YET.

maybe it is an ass pulling, but you don't know that yet. just let the show explain itself, and if it didn't make sense after that, then complain about it.

Gween_Gween said:
The training of Bojji was the equivalent of Johan's deeds, but even lazier because doing a training arc is easier to pull than doing a credible mastermind.

A little off topic, but people who decide to come into a post to do a meta comment about the threads are so boring and unoriginal, no wonder they like this shit

because it's a stupid complaint. anyone with half a brain can tell that this was not a "training ark". it was meant to be a mystery, that got set up by using shock value. the goal was to make the audience go "wtf happened".

now i'm NOT saying doing that is a masterful writing technique that makes this show a modern masterpiece, or even deserving of it's score. it's a pretty standard way of story telling, but for fuck sake stop making everything a complaint. like come on, how tf do you expect me to take his criticisms seriously, when he calls this a training ark, and complains about it not making sense, when it is blindly obvious that it hasn't been explained yet.

like come on, his two main points are objectively wrong, because his understanding of the plot is wrong. you can't complain about something being a bad training ark and not making sense. when it's not a training ark and it's not meant to make sense at this point in the story.

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because it's a stupid complaint. anyone with half a brain can tell that this was not a "training ark". it was meant to be a mystery, that got set up by using shock value. the goal was to make the audience go "wtf happened".

now i'm NOT saying doing that is a masterful writing technique that makes this show a modern masterpiece, or even deserving of it's score. it's a pretty standard way of story telling, but for fuck sake stop making everything a complaint. like come on, how tf do you expect me to take his criticisms seriously, when he calls this a training ark, and complains about it not making sense, when it is blindly obvious that it hasn't been explained yet.

like come on, his two main points are objectively wrong, because his understanding of the plot is wrong. you can't complain about something being a bad training ark and not making sense. when it's not a training ark and it's not meant to make sense at this point in the story.

So I agree, this is not a "training arc", the character just happened to get stronger out of nowhere and they will reveal an abstract scheme of such training later on. The problem is that doing so is lazy, the details and emotions that could have gone into the training are thrown out of the window because, for some reason, the author decided to hide a piece of information that is normally available in this anime. It doesn't come off as a honest way to proceed with the story, it is like making the dialogues mute for 5 minutes to later on explain the conversation

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It seems pretty clear that King Bosse's strength is actually Bojji's strength that Bosse stole. That's probably why the mirror answers with Bojji to the question of who's the strongest. (Further evidence for that was the pact with the devil that required family blood.)

But now Bosse died and Bojji might have somehow regained this power. Daida was consumed and replaced by Bosse instead. This is all a bit confusing and still in need of further explanation.

Regardless, Bojji's training was not an arc, just an upgrade. Since he's already deemed the strongest, then either:
1) The point of the show is not for Bojji to become number #1, but to explore the conflicting dynamics between those who seek power.

2) Bojji is not really the strongest yet. He might have trained and gained power, but he likely needs proper combat skill and learning to control his emotions, as well as strengthening his willpower in a real hostile environment.

So far, the situation is unclear, but that doesn't mean it ought to remain that way, and I'm not that anxious for spoon fed, quick explanations. The pacing of the show is fine.

But now Bosse died and Bojji might have somehow regained this power. Daida was consumed and replaced by Bosse instead. This is all a bit confusing and still in need of further explanation.

because it's a stupid complaint. anyone with half a brain can tell that this was not a "training ark". it was meant to be a mystery, that got set up by using shock value. the goal was to make the audience go "wtf happened".

now i'm NOT saying doing that is a masterful writing technique that makes this show a modern masterpiece, or even deserving of it's score. it's a pretty standard way of story telling, but for fuck sake stop making everything a complaint. like come on, how tf do you expect me to take his criticisms seriously, when he calls this a training ark, and complains about it not making sense, when it is blindly obvious that it hasn't been explained yet.

like come on, his two main points are objectively wrong, because his understanding of the plot is wrong. you can't complain about something being a bad training ark and not making sense. when it's not a training ark and it's not meant to make sense at this point in the story.

So I agree, this is not a "training arc", the character just happened to get stronger out of nowhere and they will reveal an abstract scheme of such training later on. The problem is that doing so is lazy, the details and emotions that could have gone into the training are thrown out of the window because, for some reason, the author decided to hide a piece of information that is normally available in this anime. It doesn't come off as a honest way to proceed with the story, it is like making the dialogues mute for 5 minutes to later on explain the conversation

i do get what you are saying. it's a pretty cheap way of gaining engagement, and there are things that might have been missed out on because of it.

but here's the main problem with this complaint. that is only the case, if everything happens, the way you expect it to happen.

why/how he got stronger is the key. your complaint is wrong, because you are assuming it was a normal "training ark". there are more than a few possible reasons for this being the right choice. this is not something that can be judged this early.

you are right that the show sacrificed the emotional impact of seeing the mc grow in a way that even a flash back can't make up for it. but you haven't seen what the show gained from that sacrifice. for all you know, it might pay off with something even better and more impactful.

your complaint is a lot more valid than the op, but you are still jumping the gun. it's still too early.

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