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Anyhow, any help sorting this out would be appreciated as I try to wrap my head around this and manage active campaigns at the same time is a bit more than I can chew right now.
The text you quoted does specify that the holy symbol is an entity separate that is placed onto the shield, so to have a shield with a holy symbol is 5gp in addition to the shield s cost. Following the rules of what is required for a shield to satisfy the material components for spellcasting, I would say that they could just buy a new emblem and apply it to their new shield.
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What exactly are you getting when you buy an Emblem Holy Symbol?
Holy Symbol. A holy symbol is a representation of a god or pantheon. It might an amulet depicting a symbol representing a deity, the same symbol carefully engraved or inlaid as an emblem on a shield, or a tiny box holding a fragment of a sacred relic. Appendix B lists the symbols commonly associated with many gods in the multiverse.
- Are you buying some kind of "official pattern" that is required for a shield to count as having a proper "holy symbol" (as in, satisfies the material components for spellcasting) emblem on it? Almost like a "patented pattern"? Then why couldn't you just buy one and replicate it yourself for free forevermore after that initial purchase?
- Are you buying the "manual labour" to actually engrave/inlay the thing onto your shield? Then would it make sense that this can only be purchased from a blacksmith rather than from the local temple (where one might expect the other holy symbols–amulets or reliquary–to be purchased)? And could someone with Smith's Tools (and proficiency with them) not do it themselves for free?
- Are you effectively buying a shield that has already been made with that engraving/inlay "officially done", so you're basically buying a shield for 15gp (or a 5gp markup on whatever shield you're buying), and you can't actually buy just the emblem by itself for 5gp?
Note that the above questions are not actually my main question, they are just included to show my train of thought, which I feel is important to show the context of the main question. I do not expect answers to address these questions individually!
What I'm really getting at here, if I use my real example, is that in a game I am DMing, the party's paladin (who has a shield with an emblem on it as per starting equipment) has raised concerns about having to buy a new holy symbol if they get a +1 shield in the future. This is unlike any other holy symbol, which you simply have forever (assuming you don't lose or destroy it), since it is it's own distinct object, so the emblem would need to be replaced is a unique case here.
Following the rules of what is required for a shield to satisfy the material components for spellcasting, I would say that they could just "buy" a new emblem and apply it to their new shield. But that got me thinking, what exactly would the paladin be buying at that point, and would it be possible to simply transfer the symbol over from their old shield to the new shield at no cost? This is a unique case, as for the other holy symbols, replacing some other piece of equipment would not impact them like this.
So, what exactly is an Emblem with regards to what a PC would be buying in-universe?
Note that I'm not looking for opinions, and if the answer is simply "this is not explained anywhere, as DM you have to decide what this means", then that's the answer.
Follow NathanS asked Nov 26, 2019 at 11:33 NathanS NathanS 78.3k 64 64 gold badges 373 373 silver badges 658 658 bronze badges \$\endgroup\$\$\begingroup\$ @JRodge01 I see; I was hoping the emboldened question at the bottom of the post would have made that clear, but nonetheless, I have added another emboldened statement clarifying that these "extra questions" are just to show my train of thought, and that they are not really something I expect to be answered. I did a similar thing with my "what are spell slots" question, but it was perhaps a little more explicitly organised. \$\endgroup\$
Nov 26, 2019 at 15:32\$\begingroup\$ In other words, I've got many questions swimming around in my head about this issue, so I tried to boil it down to what I think is the underlying issue beneath all of my other questions, which is "what is an emblem when you buy it in-game?", but I still wanted to include my other questions swimming around in my head for context (in case my "underlying question" isn't clear enough on its own, or maybe I've identified the wrong underlying question?) \$\endgroup\$
Nov 26, 2019 at 15:41\$\begingroup\$ The strangest thing about this question is being reminded that paladins, who have specifically had their powers unlinked from a deity in 5e, still need a holy symbol at all. \$\endgroup\$
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