The Melting Witch: A Lesson in the Consequences of Wickedness in Wizard of Oz

The melting witch from the Wizard of Oz is an iconic scene in cinematic history. In the film, the witch, known as the Wicked Witch of the West, meets her demise when Dorothy accidentally throws water on her. This causes her to melt away completely, leaving behind nothing but her hat and cloak. The melting witch scene is both eerie and captivating. The visual effects used to portray the witch melting are quite impressive, especially considering that the film was released in 1939. The special effects team used a combination of practical effects, such as melting wax, and back-projection techniques to achieve the desired effect.

Old thermostat wiring

So I m wondering if there is any thermostat on the market that has this capability, or am I just way out of line for expecting a thermostat to provide me with this kind of esoteric detail. Well I went downstairs to make sure the filter wasn t crazy clogged up or anything like that, maybe keeping it from kicking on, it was just a thought.

The special effects team used a combination of practical effects, such as melting wax, and back-projection techniques to achieve the desired effect. The melting witch symbolizes the defeat of evil and the triumph of good. Throughout the film, the Wicked Witch of the West is portrayed as a menacing and powerful figure, constantly trying to prevent Dorothy from reaching her goal of returning home.

How do I test a furnace without a thermostat ?

I have a furnace that has no thermostat wires ran to it. Meaning, all the wires that were on the circuit board of the furnace are taken off. I wanted to test the blower motor so I ran a switch to it . When I turn it on , the blower motor spins about a half an inch . I'm assuming I have to wire the circuit board. How do I do this.

larry4406

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"Red and White makes my furnace light".

Literally, connect the red and white terminals on the board and it will go into start up sequence and run full tilt for heat. Check the gas solenoid as many have an on/off switch and make sure it is on.

dogdog

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Bert_

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R is 24v power, W is call for heat, if it has a G terminal that is fan only.

R+W will be normal heating.

Jberger93

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bubinga

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R is 24v power, W is call for heat, if it has a G terminal that is fan only.

R+W will be normal heating.

I'm going to piggyback on this thread.
I want to test my thermostat, jumping at the terminals on the back of the thermostat.
So, if R and W is call for heat, what would I jump
R to, to see if my A/C kicks on?
(This is an older style round thermostat,
No digital readout)

Jim greengo

I'm going to piggyback on this thread.
I want to test my thermostat, jumping at the terminals on the back of the thermostat.
So, if R and W is call for heat, what would I jump
R to, to see if my A/C kicks on?
(This is an older style round thermostat,
No digital readout)

bubinga

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Thank you Jim
So I would jump all 3?
Red R 24 v and Green
Will power my fan, and jumpering in Yellow Y (Or blue) will start the sequence for the air conditioning correct?

Jim greengo

Thank you Jim
So I would jump all 3?
Red R 24 v and Green
Will power my fan, and jumpering in Yellow Y (Or blue) will start the sequence for the air conditioning correct?

bubinga

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Jim greengo

bubinga

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Well I went downstairs to make sure the filter wasn't crazy clogged up or anything like that, maybe keeping it from kicking on, it was just a thought.
The filter is not too terribly dirty or anything.
Now I have not tried to jump the thermostat out yet.
However, when I went down to check the filter the blower motor was running (the fan switch is set to automatic)
Also the unit is running outside.
Could that still be a malfunction in the thermostat perhaps from the R terminal, to the yellow terminal of the thermostat?
I know it's definitely not cooling though I have the thermostat set to about 60° and the thermometer is reading 68 to 70°.
Thank you!

Jim greengo

Try removing thermostat and see if it shuts down.Depending on how new the furnace is ,it could also be a control board/relay problem.
Get that part figured out 1st,then throw a set of gauges on the outside unit to see what its doing.

dogdog

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Well I went downstairs to make sure the filter wasn't crazy clogged up or anything like that, maybe keeping it from kicking on, it was just a thought.
The filter is not too terribly dirty or anything.
Now I have not tried to jump the thermostat out yet.
However, when I went down to check the filter the blower motor was running (the fan switch is set to automatic)
Also the unit is running outside.
Could that still be a malfunction in the thermostat perhaps from the R terminal, to the yellow terminal of the thermostat?
I know it's definitely not cooling though I have the thermostat set to about 60° and the thermometer is reading 68 to 70°.
Thank you!

if you are on heat setting, your thermostat is set at 60 and your temp is at 70, it should not run regardless of fan is on automatic or not.

but if you are on Cooling mode, your thermostat is set at 60, and your temp is at 70 it will try to cool the house down to 60.

check and make sure what mode your thermostat is set to. ? heating or cooling.

bubinga

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if you are on heat setting, your thermostat is set at 60 and your temp is at 70, it should not run regardless of fan is on automatic or not.

but if you are on Cooling mode, your thermostat is set at 60, and your temp is at 70 it will try to cool the house down to 60.

check and make sure what mode your thermostat is set to. ? heating or cooling.

bubinga

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Try removing thermostat and see if it shuts down. Depending on how new the furnace is ,it could also be a control board/relay problem.
Get that part figured out 1st,then throw a set of gauges on the outside unit to see what its doing.

Remove the thermostat and see if the blower shuts down you mean?
Can I just remove the wire to the R terminal, or do I have to remove all of the wires?
Thanks Guys!

Side note, It was running just fine the day before.
If I pull the control board, can one often see something burned up on the board. (If the board is bad)
I'm not sure how old the system is.
Would it pay me to set the thermostat to call for heat, go down and shut the power switch to off, turn it back on, and note the start up sequence?
I know the last one I worked on gave you codes.
Furnace isn't working either though, as I set it to the heat mode, and the room temperature is still around 60*

bubinga

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OK, MY Bad!
The heat side of the system seems to still be working fine. I don't know, would it still be possible it is still a bad thermostat if the A//C is not working, but the heat is?

dogdog

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OK, MY Bad!
The heat side of the system seems to still be working fine. I don't know, would it still be possible it is still a bad thermostat if the A//C is not working, but the heat is?

you were on cooling mode. by default if you set your temp to cooling and your set temp is at 60, your room temp is at 68, the system will turn on, and try to cool the house down to 60deg +/- 3 or what ever that error set at.

if your blower unit on the furnace is running, and the outside compressor fan is working. but your house or the air is not cool, it might be something else.

Normal system, usually only have 1 set of control wires to the outside unit and 24vac to control a contactor / relay for both the 240V condenser fan and compressor. so if that runs, it might not be electrical issue. well at least up to the contactor point (not control electronic issue)

bubinga

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you were on cooling mode. by default if you set your temp to cooling and your set temp is at 60, your room temp is at 68, the system will turn on, and try to cool the house down to 60deg +/- 3 or what ever that error set at.

Yes, all of that I understand, and is working properly. And I am setting the Heat/Cooling mode properly, and setting the temperature dial correctly.

if your blower unit on the furnace is running, and the outside compressor fan is working. but your house or the air is not cool, it might be something else.

Normal system, usually only have 1 set of control wires to the outside unit and 24vac to control a contactor / relay for both the 240V condenser fan and compressor. so if that runs, it might not be electrical issue. well at least up to the contactor point (not control electronic issue)

So you are saying if the Blower motor on the furnace is running, and the outside compressor fan is running, I can eliminate the thermostat being the issue?

dogdog

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"So you are saying if the Blower motor on the furnace is running, and the outside compressor fan is running, I can eliminate the thermostat being the issue?"

^^^
Yes. It would only be a problem if you are on cooling and your set target temp on thermostat is 68 and outside ambient temp reading is at 60 ( the reverse of what you got) and system turns on. that might be some issue.

There are only one set of control wires to the outdoor condenser / compressor unit. in most home AC systems, "most". if the contactor is engaged, the out door unit contactor is engaged. it's not thermostat issues I would say. all you have left is if the condenser fan running, verify if the compressor is running.. or at least voltage to the compressor. or monitoring the pressure. Usually there is an electrical diagram at the condenser unit panels. "Usually"

but voltage to the contactor and your furnace blower running, heater not engaged, that is normal in cooling mode.

Sorry , not expert enough to trouble shoot refrigerant pressure or calculate super heat those stuff yet. I need to pick that skill up to fix for my parent's place, same situation, blower runs, condenser fan runs, compressor runs (?), not cooling. suspect some bad installer since day one too cheap to purge when brazing the lines. (long story). dunno for sure, it's not been working since day one house was build..

There are few good youtubers doing subjects on super heat and recharging / condenser compressor diag.. one guy from florida Dr. Zyclop or something is great if he is still around. because he explains it, instead of show off with it like most youtuber. So you actually learn something instead of WOW he is amazing and learn learn nothing..

I really hate having to go downstairs just to see if my boiler is on. I have a fancy-schmancy LUX thermostat that some previous owner of my house bought. It can do a lot of amazing things, from telling me when to change some filter that doesn't exist to controlling the air conditioner I do not own. It's fully programmable, but all I need it to do is maintain a single temperature, but it would be really nice if it could tell me when it's calling for heat. Shouldn't be too hard, right? A smart unit like that should know if a set of contacts is open or closed, yet, for some reason it's unwilling to share that information with me. So I'm wondering if there is any thermostat on the market that has this capability, or am I just way out of line for expecting a thermostat to provide me with this kind of esoteric detail?

However, her ultimate demise suggests that even the most formidable adversaries can be overcome. Furthermore, the melting witch scene also serves as a cautionary tale about the destructive power of water. In this case, water is the witch's undoing, emphasizing the importance of using power responsibly and not underestimating the potential consequences. The melting witch from the Wizard of Oz has become an enduring image in popular culture. It is often referenced and parodied in various forms of media, and many people recognize the scene even if they have not seen the film in its entirety. In conclusion, the melting witch from the Wizard of Oz is a memorable and significant moment in cinema. It showcases the power of visual effects and serves as a powerful symbol of good triumphing over evil. The scene continues to captivate audiences and remains an integral part of the film's legacy..

Reviews for "The Melting Witch: A Dark Moment in Wizard of Oz"

1. John - 2/5 stars - I was really disappointed with "Melting Witch Wizard of Ox". The storyline was confusing and hard to follow, and the characters were uninteresting and one-dimensional. The special effects also fell short, making the movie feel cheap and poorly made. Overall, I found it to be a forgettable and lackluster film.

2. Sarah - 1/5 stars - "Melting Witch Wizard of Ox" was a complete waste of time. The acting was subpar, with wooden performances and lack of chemistry among the cast. The dialogue was cringeworthy and the jokes fell flat. I found myself checking my watch constantly, counting down the minutes until the movie was over. Save yourself the disappointment and avoid this film at all costs.

3. Mark - 3/5 stars - I had high hopes for "Melting Witch Wizard of Ox", but unfortunately, it didn't live up to my expectations. While the visuals were stunning, the storyline felt convoluted and poorly executed. The pacing was off, with the movie dragging in certain parts and rushing through important moments. Overall, it had potential, but ultimately fell short in terms of storytelling and character development.

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