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U of I students voting on potential mascot change

CHAMPAIGN, Ill. (WICS/WCCU) — University of Illinois students have a big job.

Either Wednesday, March 4, or Thursday, March 5, U of I students will have the opportunity to possibly choose a new mascot.

The proposed mascot is known as the belted kingfisher.

It's a bird with orange and blue coloring that's native to Illinois.

While many are on board with the proposal, some aren't sold on the idea of change.

Spencer Hulsey is a senior at the University of Illinois and she's leading the charge on making the belted kingfisher bird the school's new mascot.

Hulsey said she came up with the idea after growing up on a farm and seeing the native bird.

"I drew up a couple of designs like 'We can try, right?' and posted it on Reddit and it took off; it's one of the most popular votes on our university's Reddit," Hulsey said. "It passed the ISG and they thought it was very exciting and today it is now being voted on."

While a lot of students are excited about the proposal, not everyone is on board with the idea.

"The flip side of the coin is that [some] alum are angry that it's not the chief," Hulsey said. "So I think students are very excited to have something new to finally have a mascot after 13 years since the last one was removed, but alum wants to bring back the chief, so I think it's a split."

Some viewers expressed they weren't happy about the potential change, either.

When we posted about it on our Facebook page this week, some said the school 'already has a mascot.'

Although many students we spoke to on campus Wednesday said they're excited about it.

Benjamin Meade said he thinks it's time for a new mascot.

"Everyone I've talked to has pretty much agreed an orange and blue bird that's natural to Illinois is a great idea," Meade said.

U of I sophomore Bella Scott said she liked the look of the potential mascot.

"I think it's a good change," Scott said. "We haven't had a mascot for ten or so years."

Luke Mocarski agreed.

"I'd say a new mascot is better than no mascot," Mocarski said.

Hulsey said no matter what happens, she remains optimistic.

"if this proposal fails, it is not the end of students attempting to get a new mascot," Hulsey said. "I believe that students as part of a college, as part of the college experience should be able to have a mascot."

We spoke with school officials earlier this week that said if the vote is successful, it would then go through a process with school officials to determine if they want to move forward with the change.

This would not interfere with the "Fighting Illini" name.

Fighting Illini Say Goodbye To The Chief

The University of Illinois will drop its 81-year-old American Indian mascot, Chief Illiniwek, following the last men's basketball home game of the season on Wednesday, officials said.

The move makes the school eligible to host postseason NCAA championship events.

The NCAA in 2005 deemed Illiniwek — portrayed by buckskin-clad students who dance at home football and basketball games and other athletic events — to be an offensive use of American Indian imagery and barred the university from hosting postseason events.

American Indian groups and others have complained for years that the mascot, used since 1926, is demeaning. Supporters of the mascot say it honors the contributions of American Indians to Illinois.

Illinois still will be able to use the name Illini because it's short for Illinois and the school can use the term Fighting Illini, because it's considered a reference to the team's competitive spirit, school officials said. It is unclear if the school will get a new mascot.

"The Chief Illiniwek tradition inspired and thrilled members of the University of Illinois community for 80 years," Board of Trustees Chairman Lawrence Eppley said in a statement. "It was created, carried on and enjoyed by people with great respect for tradition, and we appreciate their dedication and commitment. It will be important now to ensure the accurate recounting and safekeeping of the tradition as an integral part of the history of the university."

The university received a letter from the NCAA dated Thursday that said the school will no longer be banned from hosting postseason events if it ends use of the mascot and related American-Indian imagery.

The NCAA's sanctions thus far have prevented Illinois from hosting only two postseason events, both in low-profile sports.

Athletic director Ron Guenther said he was disappointed in the decision, but that the NCAA's sanction hurt the school's athletes and coaches.

"This is an extremely emotional day for people on both sides of the issue, but the decision announced today ends a two-decade long struggle surrounding Chief Illiniwek on this campus . ," Guenther said. "Personally, as an alumnus and former athlete, I am disappointed, however, as an administrator, I understand the decision that had to be made."

President Joseph B. White said he supported scrapping Chief Illiniwek.

"While I understand many people have strong feelings about this 80-year-old tradition, for the good of our student-athletes and our university it is time to come together and move on to the next chapter in the history of this distinguished institution," he said.

Basketball coach Bruce Weber said he, too, was disappointed, calling Chief Illiniwek a "tremendous tradition." But Weber also said he understood why the decision was made, pointing out that the NCAA barred the men's tennis team from hosting the first and second rounds of the NCAA tournament last May.

"They (the board of trustees) had to make the decision. It's disappointing," he said.

On Friday, a Champaign County Circuit Court judge rejected two students' request for a court order to ban the university from "capitulating to the NCAA by announcing the retirement of Chief Illiniwek."

The NCAA has said it believes its sanctions are legal.

A state district judge in North Dakota in November granted a preliminary injunction in a similar lawsuit filed over the University of North Dakota's Fighting Sioux nickname and use of American Indian imagery.

In the lawsuit, the students also argued that by imposing sanctions, the NCAA failed to provide due process to the students and the university.

First published on February 16, 2007 / 1:29 PM EST

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Mascot for University of Illinois?

I'll re-interject with the Flying Illini mascot I mocked up way-back-when:

Fighter of the Nightman

A rare COMPLETE disagreement with you on my part. The doughboy is one of the only "mascot" ideas I find even remotely acceptable while still maintaining some amount of dignity and uniqueness. When we had the Chief, we were sort of "above" having a mascot; we carried a certain amount of swag that allowed us to look down on the likes of Herky the Hawkeye and that goffy-. Gopher that Minnesota has. Overanalyzing, sure, but I think a lot of Illini fans had that attitude, and I think more than a few rival fans would at least concede that the Chief was cool and unique and set us apart in an admirable way.

I would learn to live with some "funny" adaptation of Abe to show state pride, but the WWI connection is really the only way to even gain some of that "being above a corny mascot" aura back, IMO. It's fair to speculate that we can't gain that back with anything other than the Chief at this point, but I still think it's important to try. Honoring the "Fighting Illini means Illinoisans who fought in WWI" and the ties that idea has with Memorial Stadium is a legitimately cool idea, and I personally would be happy if we ran with it.

Second and Chalmers

Four unrelated things:

1. Mascots are for kids. They're big and goofy. The doughboy thing just totally contravenes that whole concept. If our mascot can't do entertaining hijinks on BTN commercials with Purdue Pete and Brutus Buckeye there's no point.

2. The whole concept only arises from a bad and unnecessary premise, which is "the NCAA wants to take our history away but Fighting Illini is REALLY about. " blah blah blah everyone has already fallen asleep. It's a defensive maneuver in a dead argument that was over before our current students were in middle school.

3. The politics don't work. Chief people and doughboy people are the same people. The idea has no natural constituency. There are three groups in the Illini Mascot Culture War, the Chief people, the PC people, and they "hey would everybody just lighten up" people. Doughboy is unsuitable to all three.

4. As I said before ANY top-down imposed mascot would be awful. This isn't doughboy-specific, but it applies here.

The underlying premise of the doughboy is that we MUST have a mascot, we MUST have some iconography that establishes what a Fighting Illini "is". That premise is totally wrong. The status quo is absolutely fine. Michigan and Indiana, two peer schools and rivals who have great brands and great visual identities have no mascot and no plans to develop one and it's fine.

ILL in IA

A rare COMPLETE disagreement with you on my part. The doughboy is one of the only "mascot" ideas I find even remotely acceptable while still maintaining some amount of dignity and uniqueness. When we had the Chief, we were sort of "above" having a mascot; we carried a certain amount of swag that allowed us to look down on the likes of Herky the Hawkeye and that goffy-. Gopher that Minnesota has. Overanalyzing, sure, but I think a lot of Illini fans had that attitude, and I think more than a few rival fans would at least concede that the Chief was cool and unique and set us apart in an admirable way.

I would learn to live with some "funny" adaptation of Abe to show state pride, but the WWI connection is really the only way to even gain some of that "being above a corny mascot" aura back, IMO. It's fair to speculate that we can't gain that back with anything other than the Chief at this point, but I still think it's important to try. Honoring the "Fighting Illini means Illinoisans who fought in WWI" and the ties that idea has with Memorial Stadium is a legitimately cool idea, and I personally would be happy if we ran with it.

Maybe they do this currently and I am not aware of it, but I would rather try to establish some sort of "hype" video before games that go over that tradition of why we are the fighting illini. (I know Iowa does this with Kinnick and why the stadium is named after him.) I still think a lot of work needs to be done on owning the narrative on the fighting illini name and it not being a direct native American reference. I think this could be a cool way to pay some remembrance to the past and history, and not be stuck with a mascot on the sideline. Because nothing will be as cool as the chief was, and goofy soldiers seem more like disrespect to me.

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